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the latest on the fiscal cliff, president obama and house speaker boehner meeting behind closed doors, close to the media we didn't know what was happening and don't know what was said there because they're keeping it private. they say it's an effort to avoid the deadlock in the negotiations. and the white house pushes for more taxes on higher earners, republicans are holding out for deeper cuts. and demonstrators acting in anger to president mohammed morsi's continued push on an islamist backed constitution. and in the streets of cairo demanding that vote scheduled for this coming saturday be canceled and many in the u.s. concerned about religious freedom during this unnecessary. i'm harris falkner and now, back to huckabee. [applause] >> detroit is broke. and detroit is in big trouble. officials there are trying to figure out just how the city can avoid being the largest american town ever to declare bankruptcy. and joanne watson, counsel woman came up with the quote of the week. >> and after the election of jimmy carter, coleman young went to washington, d.c. he came back home with
the latest on the fiscal cliff, president obama and house speaker boehner meeting behind closed doors, close to the media we didn't know what was happening and don't know what was said there because they're keeping it private. they say it's an effort to avoid the deadlock in the negotiations. and the white house pushes for more taxes on higher earners, republicans are holding out for deeper cuts. and demonstrators acting in anger to president mohammed morsi's continued push on an islamist...
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get to the fiscal cliff in a second. but first, the job report this morning, 7.7% unemployment because so many people left the workforce. 146,000 jobs. the question a lot of people are asking is when are we going get back to good honest job creation to grow the economy? what is it going to take? >> political will in a word. what is interesting about the jobs numbers and the economy in general is that it's not so much the fundamentals of the economy. businesses who hire people who create jobs which nancy pelosi is looking for are looking for political will out of washington. they are looking for certainty on the fiscal cliff. certainty that debt reduction, there will be debt reduction, that entitlements will be brought under control. looking for certainty on taxe taxes. until this happens, there isn't going to be that certainly. i have to say that the republicans showed the political will. they stood up, to the conservative base. they put the re-knews on the table. what troubles me -- now that the ball is in the white hou
get to the fiscal cliff in a second. but first, the job report this morning, 7.7% unemployment because so many people left the workforce. 146,000 jobs. the question a lot of people are asking is when are we going get back to good honest job creation to grow the economy? what is it going to take? >> political will in a word. what is interesting about the jobs numbers and the economy in general is that it's not so much the fundamentals of the economy. businesses who hire people who create...
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with that they propose is a counter over for the fiscal cliff. the republican plan has will00 billion for tax freerm 900 billion in mandatory spending cuts and 300 billion in discretionary cuts. the proposal falls short of what the president wants and cannot be taken seriously. >>> we understand they don't agree with everything the president has put on the table but we haven't seen alternatives for that. they have spoken about an avenue and that challenge is welcome. republican leaders have been adamant they don't believe rates ought to go up on the top 2 percent of wealthiest americans. the american people overwhelmingly disagree. the rates have to rise and republicans need to acknowledge that. >> the major difference between the two sides is over taxing on the rich. obama wants to raise taxes on the wealthy. obama wants to eliminate deductions and close loopholes plus cut spending for entitlement programs. the president has said there can't be tax cuts for the rich at the expense of the domestic program which is frustrating for some republicans
with that they propose is a counter over for the fiscal cliff. the republican plan has will00 billion for tax freerm 900 billion in mandatory spending cuts and 300 billion in discretionary cuts. the proposal falls short of what the president wants and cannot be taken seriously. >>> we understand they don't agree with everything the president has put on the table but we haven't seen alternatives for that. they have spoken about an avenue and that challenge is welcome. republican leaders...
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some argue the country won't be badly damaged if the country hits the fiscal cliff. republicans and democrats keep arguing into the new year. others are worried failure to strike a deal could send the nation back into a recession. >> i think people understand the failure to compromise and going over the cliff could really jeopardize this recovery. the good news today about more people back at work, the unemployment rate coming down, listen, that can be reversed if people lose confidence in our future. >> the number two senate ranked democrat mr. temperature bib argues next week will be critical in terms of president obama and speaker boehner finding a compromise. shep? >> shepard: democrats are still saying what they have said all along and what the president ran on this is about taxes. >> that is true and they note president obama campaigned on upper income americans paying more so they intend to make sure that happens. the house democratic leader says the only obstacle is republicans refusing to ask the top 2% to pay more. >> this is a moment of truth. the clock is
some argue the country won't be badly damaged if the country hits the fiscal cliff. republicans and democrats keep arguing into the new year. others are worried failure to strike a deal could send the nation back into a recession. >> i think people understand the failure to compromise and going over the cliff could really jeopardize this recovery. the good news today about more people back at work, the unemployment rate coming down, listen, that can be reversed if people lose confidence...
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president obama ab house speaker boehner behind closed doors meeting on the fiscal cliff earlier and also tonight on the fox report. >> a dramatic hostage situation, a botched robbery at a fast food restaurant, escalating into a standoff. >> and we tried for several hours for this to end. >> and it didn't. the race against time, to save lives. and london calling, police there contacting their australia counterparts into a possible investigation into the royal pregnancy hoax, a prank call from two dj's now apparently tied to the death of a nurse who fell victim to their tricks. >> and indicated, they may wish to speak to the people involved in the matter. >> is it trouble for their radio station, just reach a whole new level? let's begin again. new details about just how intricate and dangerous the operation was to rescue an american doctor. snatched by the taliban, it was breaking news last night on fox report. we're learning much more, the white house saying a short time ago, a u.s. service member, a navy seal was killed in that mission. president obama issuing this statement, tragi
president obama ab house speaker boehner behind closed doors meeting on the fiscal cliff earlier and also tonight on the fox report. >> a dramatic hostage situation, a botched robbery at a fast food restaurant, escalating into a standoff. >> and we tried for several hours for this to end. >> and it didn't. the race against time, to save lives. and london calling, police there contacting their australia counterparts into a possible investigation into the royal pregnancy hoax, a...
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fiscal cliff. if you listened to speaker boehner yesterday he is reading reports that the president is trying to slow walk this thing. listen to the speaker. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the rev that the president seeks on the table, but nope of it is going to be possible. the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. that's not the way to get to an agreement that i think is important for the american people and very important for our economy. >> there you go. so that's what speaker boehner's office is saying. they had a phone call on thursday. but people wondering if they are not even talking at all anymore. >> he said this is no way to an agreement there should be compromise. if you are elected official you should represent all of the united states and you should compromise and hear both sides. >> i think you should
fiscal cliff. if you listened to speaker boehner yesterday he is reading reports that the president is trying to slow walk this thing. listen to the speaker. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the rev that the president seeks on the table, but nope of it is going to be possible. the president insists on his position. insists on my way...
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has nothing to do with the fiscal cliff. why you might pay a lot more for medical supplies, things like rubber gloves, the stuff you see in hospitals all the time. bill: unbelievable. this little girl missing her soldier dad gets her christmas wish. these never get old. merry christmas. ♪ i love the holidays. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, evertime. 2% on groceries. 3% on gas. automatically. no hoops to jump through. that's 1% back on... [ toy robot sounds ] 2% on pumpn pie. and apple. 3% back on 4 trips to the airport. it's as easy as.. -[ man ] 1... -[ woman ] 2... [ woman ] 3. [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards card. apply online or at a bank of america near you. martha: christmas is coming early for one little girl. this 5-year-old, her name is briel oaks. she got do meet santa at a county fair in wisconsin on thursday. she had just one thing on her list. >> so what would you like for christmas? >> my daddy to come home. >> where
has nothing to do with the fiscal cliff. why you might pay a lot more for medical supplies, things like rubber gloves, the stuff you see in hospitals all the time. bill: unbelievable. this little girl missing her soldier dad gets her christmas wish. these never get old. merry christmas. ♪ i love the holidays. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, evertime. 2% on groceries. 3% on gas. automatically. no hoops to jump through....
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. >> what is the fiscal cliff? >> honestly, we're from new mexico, just helping out here to clean. >> no idea. >> the cliff? >> a cliff? how tall is it? >> i have no idea. >> brian: you got to ask americans. not new mexicans. what you should do about the fiscal cliff, coming up. speak of america's money crisis what, does this have to do with it? that former u.s. senator doing gangam style. he's trying to inspire you. >> i couldn't believe this. starbucks is now introducing i guess for the holidays a $450 gift card. [ cheering ] >> starbucks, $450 gift card, yeah. it's good for two small coffees and a josh groban cd. that's what it gets you the r. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do. let's see if we can get the same item at walmart f less? okay. fijit friends. fifteen bucks on rollback. wow! that's a savings of over 29
. >> what is the fiscal cliff? >> honestly, we're from new mexico, just helping out here to clean. >> no idea. >> the cliff? >> a cliff? how tall is it? >> i have no idea. >> brian: you got to ask americans. not new mexicans. what you should do about the fiscal cliff, coming up. speak of america's money crisis what, does this have to do with it? that former u.s. senator doing gangam style. he's trying to inspire you. >> i couldn't believe this....
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>> eric: if we go over the fiscal cliff, people getting hurt the most, paid the most are the wealthy. >> kimberly: look, we talk about the jobs -- look, you want class warfare. >> greg: why is it good to punish people -- >> bob: break after break after break for republicans from 1986 on. time to pony up. >> greg: why? they pay most of the taxes. >> bob: so what? you don't care they contribute. you want them punished. >> greg: you're obama's soul. >> bob: they don't pay percentage of taxes on the money they earn versus what -- >> greg: 40%. reduce the government for eight days. that is preposterous. >> eric: is earning money a bad thing? >> dana: not if you ask for campaign contributions. practical point, gite on the sunday show said all the democrats support this. that is not true. the key democrats, landrieu, begich and north carolina -- i can't remember her name -- they are on all on record saying i don't think i'm for this. he has even a harder time convincing those on the democratic side to go with his plan. >> greg: one day explain why are you punishing the rich when you know it
>> eric: if we go over the fiscal cliff, people getting hurt the most, paid the most are the wealthy. >> kimberly: look, we talk about the jobs -- look, you want class warfare. >> greg: why is it good to punish people -- >> bob: break after break after break for republicans from 1986 on. time to pony up. >> greg: why? they pay most of the taxes. >> bob: so what? you don't care they contribute. you want them punished. >> greg: you're obama's soul....
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over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there's no process in agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2 percent of the wealthiest members. only 2 percent. all of those americans, too, get a tax cut. the obama administration is happening what happens for the aying american families. we have congressman randy forbes. >> let me ask you something. do you feel like a president actually wants this to happen so that it gives him some political ad vantage? >> i have to judge that by two things. first of all what i am hearing from my colleagues on the democratic leadership side they said they wanted to go over the fiscal cliff because we have argued all along they will start by simply taxing everybody over 250,000. they told me they wouldn vote fr anything that would tax everybody over 150,000. you take the president's actions. the president doesn't want to get an agreement or compromise he wants to get his way. he won't come to the table with any serious proposal because we can get a solution e
over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there's no process in agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2 percent of the wealthiest members. only 2 percent. all of those americans, too, get a tax cut. the obama administration is happening what happens for the aying american families. we have congressman randy forbes. >> let me ask you something. do you feel like a president actually wants this to happen so that it gives him some political ad vantage? >> i...
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who cares about the fiscal cliff? exactly ! >> steve: remember oliver twist. >> please sir, i need some more. >> steve: i do, too. well, it does seem like democrats are taking the oliver twist approach to solving the nation's financial problems. take a look at this. >> asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more. >> asking the wealthiest americans to contribute a little bit more. >> the wealthy ought to pay a little bit more. >> the wealthy ought to pay more. >> the richest of the rich will have to pay more to solve the financial problems of this country. >> steve: i notice a trend. the problem is, they were just asking for a little bit more, those making over $250,000 a year. they're going to be hit with new taxes at the beginning of the year, regardless of whether or not a deal is reached on the so-called fiscal cliff. stuart varney has got the bad news and it's in small print of the health care reform. >> it is. under obamacare. everybody is looking at the fiscal cliff, tax the rich more for the fiscal. okay. we've
who cares about the fiscal cliff? exactly ! >> steve: remember oliver twist. >> please sir, i need some more. >> steve: i do, too. well, it does seem like democrats are taking the oliver twist approach to solving the nation's financial problems. take a look at this. >> asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more. >> asking the wealthiest americans to contribute a little bit more. >> the wealthy ought to pay a little bit more. >> the wealthy...
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keep in mind again, you know, people call it a fiscal cliff. when you go off a cliff you usually die. my view is there are challenges in front of us. we've had them before. this is pretty significant. but we have a plan in place. no one really likes it, but at the end of the day come january, these things start to happen. the deficit gets a reduction because the tax cuts go away, the budget cuts go into play. the question is are we going to have the wherewithal to give some long-term certainty to the market so they don't have this up and down action of congress. after four years in congress i have to tell you it's one of the most disturbing thing i've seen, the lack of foresite of looking two, three, four, five years down the road. everyone plays to the next week. give it about a 40% chance of some element. the big question is have the markets worked into some of their pricing on stocks and bonds and so forth, some of this anticipation of going over these fiscal challenges? i think they probably have to to a certain degree. but it will be a rou
keep in mind again, you know, people call it a fiscal cliff. when you go off a cliff you usually die. my view is there are challenges in front of us. we've had them before. this is pretty significant. but we have a plan in place. no one really likes it, but at the end of the day come january, these things start to happen. the deficit gets a reduction because the tax cuts go away, the budget cuts go into play. the question is are we going to have the wherewithal to give some long-term certainty...
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and forget the fiscal cliff. deal or no deal. a new wave of taxes are the set to kick in next month, because of obamacare, will it be on the edge? , we'll break it down. >> mike: good morning, i'm mike in for dave. like the federal government do you have the urge to splurge? why impulse buying may be costing you and your family an extra $200 per month. >> plus, the twinky, may be here to stay after all. how one man is trying to save hostess from the brink of extension. "fox & friends" hour three starts right now. >> ♪ >> good morning, everyone, thanks so much. mike jerrick is here. >> mike: hello, can i say quickly? tomorrow is my brother, tom jerrick's birthday in maryland, and he's always at church every sunday morning, say hi to tom jerrick. >> clayton: so he was the disciplined one of the family. >> alisyn: we're getting this, you were the black sheep. >> mike: what are you trying to say? we have six kids. >> clayton: i'm saying that he's the colonel and you're not. >> mike: i'm just corny. mike jerrick is here everyone, gr
and forget the fiscal cliff. deal or no deal. a new wave of taxes are the set to kick in next month, because of obamacare, will it be on the edge? , we'll break it down. >> mike: good morning, i'm mike in for dave. like the federal government do you have the urge to splurge? why impulse buying may be costing you and your family an extra $200 per month. >> plus, the twinky, may be here to stay after all. how one man is trying to save hostess from the brink of extension. "fox...
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but back to the issue of the fiscal cliff, are you being cued in and clued in on what is happening? some republicans have complained that there are negotiations and bargains behind closed doors, that they are getting their information about what is being hammered out, essentially from news report, media reports. do you feel like you are getting enough information? >> i feel like i am being updated regularly. if the question is how i feel about the substance, where they are going, i am not encouraged, especially after the president rejected outright an initial offer by the speaker earlier this week. it didn't happen in a way that gave me confidence that the president is really interested in negotiating. he it gave me the sense that he is not only willing to allow us to go off the cliff burks perhaps he wants to push us off. >> of course, the white house continues to say, that's not what it wants, at least, publicly, but your colleague, senator lindy graham said as much a few days back, he thinks they have made a political calculation that there is a very real possibility that that is
but back to the issue of the fiscal cliff, are you being cued in and clued in on what is happening? some republicans have complained that there are negotiations and bargains behind closed doors, that they are getting their information about what is being hammered out, essentially from news report, media reports. do you feel like you are getting enough information? >> i feel like i am being updated regularly. if the question is how i feel about the substance, where they are going, i am not...
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the fiscal cliff crisis and what going off it could actually mean for us. there seems to be little disagreement what this is all about. take a listen. >> when you're addicted to debt, 16 trillion bucks and you're in the hole, one trillion, and the markets will jump in and nobody will know when that is. the tippingpoint was always described by dick durbin, when will it happen? when it happens interest rates will go up, inflation will go up and guy that gets hurt the worst is the little guy. >> i think the overhyping of deficit, the deficit mania that is seized this town is kind of crazy. i mean i love alan simpson and erskine bowles, they're talking about inflation at a moment when people are paying us money to invest in our treasury bonds? jenna: charles payne, fox business network. he has his own list what we should worry about, charles, who is right here? >> reporter: i got to tell you the idea people are giving us money, america to our treasury bonds doesn't necessarily mean it is a vote of confidence in america. means the alternatives, traditional alter
the fiscal cliff crisis and what going off it could actually mean for us. there seems to be little disagreement what this is all about. take a listen. >> when you're addicted to debt, 16 trillion bucks and you're in the hole, one trillion, and the markets will jump in and nobody will know when that is. the tippingpoint was always described by dick durbin, when will it happen? when it happens interest rates will go up, inflation will go up and guy that gets hurt the worst is the little...
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well, the fiscal cliff now. republicans are proposing a brand new plan to prevent the so-called falling off of that cliff. the automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that are set to kick in on the first of the year. the proposal counters one from the white house which republics deemed a joke. the g.o.p. plan would at least for now extend the bush era tax cuts including those cuts for the wealthiest americans it proposes raising $800 billion from tax reform over the course of the decade. and includes more than a trillion dollars in spending cuts. but monday none of them he really detailed. in addition the plan called for changes to the so-called entitlement programs, increasing the eligibility age for medicare and lowering the annual cost of living hikes for social security hikes. flu our -- put theirs on the table and dared republicans to do the same. >> they have done that tonight. the officials saying that the counter offer is ridiculous. they are hammering the fact that there is not enough in terms of tax reve
well, the fiscal cliff now. republicans are proposing a brand new plan to prevent the so-called falling off of that cliff. the automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that are set to kick in on the first of the year. the proposal counters one from the white house which republics deemed a joke. the g.o.p. plan would at least for now extend the bush era tax cuts including those cuts for the wealthiest americans it proposes raising $800 billion from tax reform over the course of the decade. and...
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alisyn: the fiscal cliff in particular. >> we got to the fiscal cliff because you had a bunch of republicans who wanted not to work with this president. now you've got republicans all of a sudden saying they are not going to take tax pledges like grover more question is wants, they are open to revenue enhancement. if they had said that two years ago or one year ago moody's wouldn't have lowered the pwhopbd ratinbond rating of the united states. they've created such uncertainty. alisyn: now that we are at the 11th hour where do you think we are now. >> i know that alan hasn't had a lot of private conversations with republican lawmakers, but take it from somebody who has. >> you don't know. >> these guys feel he will feel stymied, frustrated. they are not in the door. it's not even about compromising, that isn't even the right word. open the door, let's sit down and try to bargain and negotiate. he doesn't do that. alisyn: moving back to what the singer from the fray say. wouldn't it help for the president to invite the republicans instead of this adversarial conference room table, why not go
alisyn: the fiscal cliff in particular. >> we got to the fiscal cliff because you had a bunch of republicans who wanted not to work with this president. now you've got republicans all of a sudden saying they are not going to take tax pledges like grover more question is wants, they are open to revenue enhancement. if they had said that two years ago or one year ago moody's wouldn't have lowered the pwhopbd ratinbond rating of the united states. they've created such uncertainty. alisyn:...
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jenna: with the united states heading towards that fiscal cliff house republicans are now offering up a plan of their own to avert that combination of spending cuts and tax hikes. it's set to welcome us all on january 1st if they don't have an agreement. i'm jenna lee. jon: some kind of welcome that would be. i'm jon scott. within hours of seeing the proposal the white house slammed the g.o.p. offer saying quote their plan provides nothing new and provides no details on what deductions they'll limb nature, loopholes they will close or which medicare savings they would achieve. house speaker john boehner inc insists his offer is the best one on the table calling it a credible plan that deserves serious consideration by the white house. jenna: mike emanuel is with us. certainly a challenge to find this ideal plan. what is holding it up. >> reporter: the chairman of the senate budget committee wants a large come proceed hence i have deal in the range of $5 trillion and says a grand bargain can get done if everybody kaoels cool and doesn't overreact to every valley over the net. he this i
jenna: with the united states heading towards that fiscal cliff house republicans are now offering up a plan of their own to avert that combination of spending cuts and tax hikes. it's set to welcome us all on january 1st if they don't have an agreement. i'm jenna lee. jon: some kind of welcome that would be. i'm jon scott. within hours of seeing the proposal the white house slammed the g.o.p. offer saying quote their plan provides nothing new and provides no details on what deductions they'll...
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then you got another kind of fiscal cliff looming. do you believe that behind closed doors yesterday that the president actually seriously talked about spending cuts? >> i think he is serious about that. i think everyone knows they have to have spending cuts to go along with whatever is going to a. we should make the kind of deal and the kind of comprehensive deal that is going to get our credit rating back. we're not rated credit wise. they're talk being lowering it again. we should make a deal that will almost immediately get back our credit rating that. should almost be the standard. they know what that standard is down to the penny. that's the kind of a deal we should make. we should get our great credit rating back again. >> brian: just real quick, 'cause tonight talk about what china is don't, but rich lowry says the president wants gop humiliation and that's what's haul behind the 35 to 39% for the upper tax rate. do you see that? >> i'm not sure if it's for that purpose and maybe he believe it is and did he win an election, so
then you got another kind of fiscal cliff looming. do you believe that behind closed doors yesterday that the president actually seriously talked about spending cuts? >> i think he is serious about that. i think everyone knows they have to have spending cuts to go along with whatever is going to a. we should make the kind of deal and the kind of comprehensive deal that is going to get our credit rating back. we're not rated credit wise. they're talk being lowering it again. we should make...
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you said that the president's strategy in these fiscal cliff negotiations is nothing but a power play, and in a previous column you actually used the words they want to humiliate the republicans. expand on that and explain that. >> well, you get the republicans the day after election day making good faith offers, boehner breaking with 20 years of tradition says we'll give you revenues, $800 million, and that's a real break for the republicans. that's a peace pipe. what does he get in return? the president sends the treasury secretary, geithner, to boehner and to mcconnell. he pockets the $800 billion. he double ths it and says i want 1.6 trillion. he demand not only no spending cuts of any importance but increased stimulus in spending which is preposterous when you're running trillion dollar deficit. and just to add insult, and here's the insult, he demands congress give up the power to control the deficit. that's obviously meanlt to humiliate the republicans. it's a non-starter. it's not acceptable. it's a way of saying to boehner you want to hand me your sword, you want to hand me y
you said that the president's strategy in these fiscal cliff negotiations is nothing but a power play, and in a previous column you actually used the words they want to humiliate the republicans. expand on that and explain that. >> well, you get the republicans the day after election day making good faith offers, boehner breaking with 20 years of tradition says we'll give you revenues, $800 million, and that's a real break for the republicans. that's a peace pipe. what does he get in...
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. >> if is the administration prepared too go over the fiscal cliff. >> absolutely. there is no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthist, remember it's only 2%. >> he did not blink. that is the treasury secretary. do they talk like that? >> it's really unique. this treasury secretary is very loyal to this president, treasury secretaries are, but he is saying essentially that the tax rates going up are essential, that the money is not essential, that the dollar figure is not essential, that the rates going up are essential, and that's just interesting. going over the cliff comes with a lot of -- a lot of things that could affect the economy and the treasury secretary knows that. bill: 10% unemployment. tax rates for everybody going higher. what are you hearing on the house side? among the house republicans, whether or not they are behind the speaker, whether they are pulling away from him, where does that stand do you believe? >> reporter: you know, there are some on the house side that have a lot of concerns ab
. >> if is the administration prepared too go over the fiscal cliff. >> absolutely. there is no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthist, remember it's only 2%. >> he did not blink. that is the treasury secretary. do they talk like that? >> it's really unique. this treasury secretary is very loyal to this president, treasury secretaries are, but he is saying essentially that the tax rates going up are essential,...
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cliff. >> all right. he doesn't see it as a cliff. he sees it as a pretty good deal that they negotiated over a year ago that puts him in a position where he doesn't have to negotiate, that he can negotiate from a position of strength. >> but he has a slight other problem and that's at the end of december we're going to bump up against the debt ceiling and he wants that debt ceiling to go up. here's another thing he did which maybe you can explain this to me, but we've had all these problems with running up the debt, this unlimited credit card here in washington. the president sent the secretary of the treasury to come up with another brilliant idea which is this. the president no longer wants to get mer mission from congress to raise the debt ceiling. he wants to make the decisions himself so he's got this unlimited credit card to run up the debt ceiling and he thinks that's going to go over. >> this really harkens back to two presidents, wilson and roosevelt, both of whom when they were up
cliff. >> all right. he doesn't see it as a cliff. he sees it as a pretty good deal that they negotiated over a year ago that puts him in a position where he doesn't have to negotiate, that he can negotiate from a position of strength. >> but he has a slight other problem and that's at the end of december we're going to bump up against the debt ceiling and he wants that debt ceiling to go up. here's another thing he did which maybe you can explain this to me, but we've had all these...